The Lord Ruler is pierced through the chest with a spear, basically a long spike, then uses that spear to stab Kelsier. He was the one who organized, the one who took all of the wild brainstorming and turned it into a viable operation. Despite their strained relationship, Kelsier is still grieved and angry when they find evidence of Marshs death. You can use this to quickly reference who the various players are, in case youve forgotten. And he didnt have metals as a cognitive shadow, so we have no way of knowing. Those who had been close to Kelsier, particularly his thieving crew, are notably discomforted by his religious image. (Like Wax, and Wayne, and okay, those are the only remaining Ws, but isnt alliteration fun?). It is relevant because it has spawned 23 posts and created an interesting discussion. Ughcreepy. So, Im kind of with Ishar a little bit. OreSeur incites the skaa to rebel, beginning the revolution and the overthrow of the Final Empire. Their relationship was the sort to where Gavilar was quick to believe that he was the one who ordered his murder. It was Mare who gave Kelsier a drawing of a flower, a remnant of a time before ash clouded the sky and plants grew withered and brown. Shes the bastard half-sister of Steris. Additionally, spiking him at his death would have left the spike behind in his corpse, providing no benefits. He tells Spook that this healing was Kelsier's parting gift. Steris Harms Ladrian: Waxs wife and Marasis half-sister. Kelsier went on a pewter flare run to save the army, but was too late to stop the battle. As you can see, Kelsiers been a busy, busy boy. The spear head doesnt have to leave the body. I want to know if it is relevant, because when things are relevant, they become not just interesting and thought provoking, but actually important. Honestly though, you really, really need to read Secret History before Lost Metal drops. He didnt say anything rude. During this time, he attempted a second breakin of Kredik Shaw, and was unsuccessful; nearly getting Vin killed in the process. In his interactions with them, he goes by another name you might recognize if youre a Stormlight fan Thaidakar. One day, the men of gold and red, bearers of the final metal, will come to you. At some point after his revival, he also became a prominent figure on Roshar known as Thaidakar, though he is still physically stuck on Scadrial.[1]. Kelsier sought and eventually found the Eleventh metal as he believed it would help him to defeat the Lord Ruler. Even if he had, Kelsier died after being stabbed by the spear, but a hemalurgic spike would not kill: vital organs actually move to accommodatethe spike and keep the subject alive. Kelsier killed eight Hazekillers, stole a bag of atium, and made sure that it became known that a Mistborn had attacked a Great House, something forbidden by an unspoken agreement between the houses. , When several skaa from the rebellion were about to be executed, Kelsier attempts to save them. Gemmel is Kelsier's mentor in the allomantic arts, meeting each other after Kelsier escaped from his captivity in Hathsin. Dockson once again became Kelsier's organizer and right hand man. [37], Ah, but being an annoyance is something that I am very good at. Kelsier often kills nobility and the skaa who serve them with absolutely no qualms. There are hints throughout Era 1 that Kelsier was still around, including Sazed flat out saying that Kelsier requested Spook be made a Mistborn. Breeze would recruit men for the rebellion, Ham would train them in the Arguois caverns, Dockson would direct the operation's finances, Clubs would hide the group's Allomancy with copperclouds, OreSeur in the role of Lord Renoux would buy the necessary equipment, Marsh would infiltrate the Steel Ministry posing as an obligator, Kelsier would use his Mistborn power to make attacks on the nobility to create tension between the houses, and Vin would gather information in the noble court posing as Renoux's niece Valette. Yes, he's really dead. He takes up the Shard of Preservation following Leras' death and sends a round-about message to Marsh in the hope that his brother will remove Vin's earring. TLR is like the sacrifices, while Kelsier is like the Inquisitor. Sixteen months later, when Kelsier was unable to get his weekly atium geode, Mare gave Kelsier hers, claiming that she had found two that week. Might as well use that talent for the cause of good eh? , He and Hoid have a very antagonistic relationship one with one another, stretching back to when they first met and got into a violent fight. B. from what I do understand, I don't see why it is relevant, and generally, when something is irrelevant it is wrong simply because it is simply adding more complexity to the books (I think we all know the Cosmere has plenty), and is pointless. the original post says a lot: Are you asking if the rebels were influencedby Ruin? Most of the information in this article has been culled from The Coppermind, the definitive Sanderson knowledge base on the internet. TheManKnownAsHoid, August 2, 2018. . I have to explain myself like, seventeen times. Edwarn Ladrian (aka Mister Suit): Waxs uncle, and a member of the Set. The Southern Scadrians have also used the metal in primer cubes which can somehow regulate ettmetals effects with the flip of a switch. We left off in TheBands of Mourning with Steris and Wax eloping. [45] They question him on Preservation's appearance after learning he has spoken directly with the Shard, and then continue their discussion onto other topics. He is almost always late to gatherings, which he attributes to always having somewhere better to be. Kelsier went on to save Elend's life from an inquisitor. Marsh/Ironeyes/Death: Kelsier's Inquisitor brother, who possesses Hemalurgic spikes, allowing him to use the abilities of Hemalurgy. if TLR was spiked? When Lord Tresting attempted to rape a skaa girl, Kelsier saved her, killing Tresting and all his servants and soldiers in the process. We dont haveto do this. Even if it weren't a viable metal, as a Mistborn he would have been able to burn it, and he wasn't able to sense it at all. Kelsier had traveled there several years after the Catacendre, inhabiting a physical body that was spiked in the right eye, and found the Southern Scadrians slowly dying of an unexplained coldness. I find it odd how specific Kelsier's death is. Marsh doesnt like a lot of Kelsiers actions and the way he handles the rebellion. , Kelsier is terrified by Ati and the power that he holds, seeing and feeling it through the Well of Ascension.[74]. Many years after the Catacendre, the cult which started after Kelsier's deception with OreSeur directly following his death has become a fully-formed religion. Kelsier is a Mistborn, so he can burn every Allomantic metal, although he is particularly proficient with the external physical metals iron and steel. For one of them, Kelsier's crew planned to steal the Lord Ruler's atium cache, which they believed lay hidden in Kredik Shaw. Its relevant to the past in the cosmere. "Now, let's go jump that wall."Based on Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn novels, where Kelsier first teaches Vin about Allomancy.The boards are also available on. Waxillium (Wax) Ladrian(fka Asinthew): One of our two primary characters. [3] He considers him to be very dangerous. [61][4][3] When assassinated by Szeth, Gavilar suspects Thaidakar of ordering his death. Kelsier is seen to be not fond of the decision, but doesn't let any of his agents to assassinate her. born of the mist dagger kelsier fornite books bookmarks Creator Janseloth Designs 2 Downloads 3 Sales US$5.40 Followers 0 Follow Contact Page translated by automatic translation. The mists curled around him, blending into the tassels of his mistcloak. This isn't really a theory, I would just like to get the ball rolling on a discussion and throw that out there. Having escaped death only by becoming a Mistborn . He strongly disapproves of the way Kelsier flippantly kills noblemen and those who serve them without a second thought. Foopers. A bit obsessive, a bit anxious, and a whole lot amazing, Steris uses her neurodivergencies to her (and Waxs) advantage by plotting out every eventuality and creating detailed plans to deal with any situation. Kelsier considers guns to be inelegant weapons. Does that make any sense? Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the Well allowed him to become a Cognitive Shadow and resist the pull of the Beyond. Throughout the course of the series, weve been following the underhanded machinations of a group called the Set. In Alloy of Law, we learned that the Set (through Mister Suit, Waxs uncle) was responsible for funding the Vanishers, a group who was kidnapping female descendants of the Lord Mistborn (aka Spook). [71] He was hours away near Southern Scadrian when Telsin planned to send a bomb on Elendel, and tasked Moonlight, TwinSoul, and Marasi to take care of it. He has been described by Brandon Sanderson as a psychopath. After the fall of the Lord Ruler, Marsh eventually came under control of Ruin, as Ruin used the Hemalurgic nature of the Inquisitors to control them. Throughout the course of the original Mistborn trilogy, he was been working behind the scenes to try to help Vins cause. Proceed with caution if you have not read this book. Brandon definitely knew Kelsier wasn't gone from the beginning. Allik Neverfar: A Southern Scadrian (specifically from Malwish), Allik is an airship crewman who was captured by the Set. No, Kelsier was not fond of Marsh. [29] Hoid has also taken direct action against him, giving Wax an unsealed coppermind containing knowledge that he would rather keep hidden. As long as it provides something to think about and consider, it is worth posting. [67] Harmony also made vague allusions to the Southern Scadrians that Kelsier once ruled as the Sovereign. Kelsier was kind of Ruins agent on Scadrial while he was there, even though he didnt actually have a spike. Its central tenet is simply to survive, by any means, until you cannot survive any longer. Although Vin assumes him to have only trained partially using each metal, Kelsier is extremely skilled at Steelpushing and Ironpulling, a skill he demonstrates when he defeats and kills the Steel Inquisitor Bendal. While he is incapable of leaving Scadrial in person, he uses an "avatar" to visit the Ghostbloods on Roshar. . When Kelsier was in the Cognitive Realm after his release, he often would show up to him in order to mock him and his inability to do anything. It is a dystopian fantasy world in which magic users gain powers by swallowing. [62], You can say what you wish, but you don't own me. It gains its Hemalurgic charge as soon as it touches moving blood. He claims that he smiles solely because laughter is the only thing that the Lord Ruler cannot take from him. Powers that we know of: Steelpushing (Allomantic) and Bloodmaking (Feruchemical). I am not trying to shut this theory down as you would say, I am trying to understand the theory, because as you said, I want to discuss it,and your post telling people who dont understand what you are saying because you are so unclear are even more uneccesary, aggressive, and frankly very rude. Kelsier is a half-skaa Mistborn from Scadrial. Kelsier offered to let her to join his crew. They discover that theres a murderer on the looseand, even worse, Harmony contacts Wax directly to inform him that this murderer is a rogue kandra named Bleeder/Paalm whos gone mad. Donald Mustard, de facto head of Fortnite, is real life friends with Brandon Sanderson, and approached him about getting characters from his books into the game. Priests in this religion wear robes with stitching up the arms to emulate Kelsier's scars from the Pits of Hathsin. [56] He does not yet know the secret to overcome this limitation. Be. You cant discuss a theory with only the people who agree with it. [8], Kelsier has a Hemalurgic spike in his right eye socket,[32] which he acquires sometime after the Catacendre. If it did, the Koloss who died wouldn't have reverted to Humans when Kelsier saw them die. In retaliation, the Lord Ruler executes numerous skaa in public demonstrations. He is confronted by a Steel Inquisitor, which he eventually manages to defeat by beheading him with the Inquisitor's own obsidian axe. Vin - (Adopted Daughter) (Asended/Deceased). And we know Ruin was able to manipulatepeople, particularly unstable people like Vin's mother and Gemmel, soit possible that the rebels who stabbed the Lord Ruler were influenced by Ruin to create a Hemalurgic Spike. The mentor figure always ends up getting killed. Even if he was though, Im kind of confused at why you think Ruin would want TLR to kill Kelsier instead of Ruin trying to have TLR kill himself somehow. [33] As a result, he has both regular vision and the steelsight that Inquisitors used, allowing him to see via both normal light and trace metals. His healing heals his spiritweb, so it's theoretically possible to use him as an infinite source of spikes.. Of course, the WoB about it just says that spiking Hoid would work very weirdly. Wax thinks that he might have connections to the Set. The people who agree with it will simply agree. I do think that an interesting (and relevant)question that is brought up by this theory though is whether or not it is possible to spike a person without killing them. He/she/it has kandra under their control, is either controlling or working with the Set, and is apparently planning on annihilating life on Scadrial as a whole. [50] He stayed with her for a while after that but ultimately had to leave. Honestly, you should have seen it coming. Leras is fascinated by Kelsier due to him being the first to punch him after death, and being the first to attempt to recruit him to their schemes. Kelsier protested, earning himself a violent beating, whereupon he Snapped. [12], Deal with your own stupid planet, you idiot. After Elendel was saved, Kelsier talked with Harmony, asking him to lead Scadrial into a new technological and Metalborn age so they may be better prepared for future threats and Autonomy's return.[22]. The elite of the underworld, each of whom had one of Kelsier's various abilities, were recruited. Kelsier fell in love with a Tineye crewmember of Dockson's retinue named Mare, whom he later married. Be aware that in its current state, it may not include all additional content yet. All Im saying is that whether or not TLR could have been hemalurgically spiked depends entirely upon whether or not the rebels stabbing him with spears only stabbed hard enough to just barely get the metal heads in, which would technically allow for hemalurgical side effects, or if the rebels stabbed him with enough force that the spear head went ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIM and stuck out the other side of his body, leaving him with only the wooden haft still inside of him and the metal heads not touching his insides. It is there revealed that it was Kelsier's ghost who stabbed Elend at the end of Well of Ascension, not Preservation. Uncanonically, Brandon imagines Kelsier as using a Seon in a trench coat as his 'avatar'. And you kind of responded with a lot of hate there. At some point, Kelsier had the Ghostbloods on Scadrial work in order to resist the oncoming threat of Trell. Kelsier later gave this drawing to Vin. But spiking modifies the spirit web, which is the same whether your a cognitive shadow or not,and so it could have provided him benefits. He is stern and intense, but always smiling; anoth er act of rebellion against the Lord Ruler's oppression. In the hundreds of years following his death at the hands of Rashek, Kelsier was revived with the help of Spook and Harmony, becoming a messiah known as the Sovereign to the Southern Scadrians. [16][35][37], Seeing his powers, Gemmel wondered what he unleashed upon the world in teaching Kelsier allomancy. Kelsier has been confirmed by WoB not to have a spike, so although he was being influenced by Ruin's plans, Ruin was not controlling his motions and therefore he did not have the intent necessary to perform hemalurgy. Which is kind of how Id always imagined it. He was dead anyways. This information has the ability to potentially ruin elements of the plot for the reader. Information about books that have not yet been released, like the other secret novels releasing in 2023 and Stormlight 5, is allowed only on meta-pages for the books themselves. When Marsh caught Vin in Luthadel, he attacked Ruin with Preservation's power, weakening Ruin's control over Marsh just enough for Marsh to rip out Vin's earring. But strangely, he still loved him. Please help The Coppermind by, Kelsier really wasn't kidding when he said that. Im going to proceed with this article under the assumption that youve read it, so if you havent, there will be some MAJOR spoilers. While there he meets Ati and Hoid, as well as regularly talking with Leras, whom he believes to be God. The spirit of Kelsier often appears in Spook's hallucinations, granting him the power to burn pewter and guiding him through difficult situations. When Bleeder killed Father Bin by nailing him to a wall, it is described as a parody of the Survivor's Statemark,[60] implying that the Statemark depicts the way Kelsier died, impaled by a spear. All Im saying is that whether or not TLR could have been hemalurgically spiked depends entirely upon whether or not the rebels stabbing him with spears only stabbed hard enough to just barely get the metal heads in, which would technically allow for hemalurgical side effects, or if the rebels stabbed him with enough force that the spear head went ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIM and stuck out the other side of his body, leaving him with only the wooden haft still inside of him and the metal heads not touching his insides. Paalm (deceased): Another kandra, one who posed as Waxs wife Lessie for a time in order to groom him for Harmonys purposes. Kelsier draws up a master plan for the job, in which he designates each member of his crew to a role. 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